Written by: C. Bulloch from his igloo in a frigid Winnipeg
Edited, and added to by: T. Knight
Table Of Contents
1) What does Gen II/Gen III mean?
When referring to a family of engines produce by GM, similar blocks of different model years are annotated by their"generation". Each significantly improved design of the same engine calls for a new generation. Thus the terms Gen I, Gen II, & Gen III were born.
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2) What
are the differences between the Gen I/II/III blocks?
|
Engine |
2.8 |
2.8 |
3.1 |
3100 |
3400 |
comment |
Generation |
I |
II |
II |
III |
III |
Gen I engines used iron heads,
while Gen II/III engines used aluminum heads. |
|
Years produced |
1985-1987 |
1987-1989 |
1989-1994 |
1994-present |
1996-present |
reason for overlap: some engines
were offered a year earlier in some models. |
|
Valves |
Intake: 1.60" Exhaust: 1.30" |
Intake: 1.72" Exhaust: 1.42" |
Intake: 1.72" Exhaust: 1.42" |
**Intake: 1.72" Exhaust: 1.42" |
Intake: 1.76" Exhaust: 1.42" |
Gen I heads have straight valves. Gen II/III heads have splayed valves. **2000+ 3100 valves are the same size as 3400 |
|
Bore X stroke |
89MM x 74MM |
89MM x 74MM |
89MM x 84MM |
89MM x 84MM |
92MM x 84MM |
the 3.1, 3100 and 3400 share the same crank, but there are 2 or 3 casting
numbers |
|
static compression Ratio |
8.9:1 |
8.9:1 |
8.9:1 |
9.6:1 |
9.5:1 |
although the 3.1 and 3100 share same bore and stroke, piston design changes
the compression ratio |
|
Timing Cover thickness |
0.75"(18 MM) |
0.75"(18 MM) |
0.75"(18 MM) |
0.5"(12.5 MM) |
0.5"(12.5 MM) |
The 3X00 engines require a smaller power steering pump than the older
engines, because of the reduced thickness. |
|
Fuel Injection system |
Multi-Port (MPFI) |
MPFI |
MPFI |
Sequential Port (SFI) |
SFI |
At higher RPM,(what RPM?) SFI resorts to MPFI, as the pulses are too
fast for SFI |
Rated Power |
130HP** 160ft-lbs |
135HP** 165ft-lbs |
140HP** 185ft-lbs |
175HP** 195ft-lbs |
180HP** 205ft-lbs |
**Power varies between years, and
some models |
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3) What
is a hybrid?
A hybrid engine, as we refer to it, is taking a 3.1L/2.8L
Gen II block and retrofitting on it newer, better flowing Gen III Heads, intake,
and exhaust manifolds. Basically its much the same as with small block chevy
guys installing late model Vortec heads and performance manifolds onto their
small block.
4) What does
3X00 mean?
The 3100 and 3400 engines share so much in
common (yet still have differences) that to make things simple when referring
to using parts from a 3100 or 3400 we simply simplify the process of typing
both out calling it "3X00". The X is a 1 or 4 numerical
value for each engine. It's a shorthand way of talking about them. It does
*not* mean a hybrid engine as some have thought.
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5)
Why swap to Gen III engine parts?
They make more power. The Gen3 cylinder heads have
flow ratings from GM Performance Parts of:
16.7% more flow on the Intake port of the cylinder head due to revised port
design. 31.7% more flow on the Exhaust port of the cylinder head due to better
port design and a new revised "D" shaped port
The Gen III Lower and Upper Intake manifolds are also the key to increased
performance. There are two sets of different style Lower intake manifolds and
corresponding upper Plenums. Both of which flow more air and increase performance
compared to the very small diameter and radius runner Gen2 manifolds.
Combine this with Gen III exhaust manifolds, with more potential to
flow and you have a good combination to gain a lot of power from your Gen II
engine block.
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6) Where is "X" part located on my new 3X00 engine?
We created a whole page just to answer this question. If you don't find the part your looking for, ask about it in the forum.
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7) What
cars came with a Gen III engine from the factory
Car |
94-99 3100 |
2000+ 3100 |
3400 |
Buick Century |
YES |
YES |
NO |
Buick Rendezvous |
NO |
NO |
YES |
Buick Skylark |
YES |
NO |
NO |
Chevrolet Monte Carlo |
YES |
NO |
YES |
Chevrolet Beretta |
YES |
NO |
NO |
Chevrolet Malibu |
YES |
YES |
NO |
Chevrolet Lumina |
YES |
YES |
NO |
Chevrolet Lumina APV (van) |
YES |
NO |
YES |
Chevrolet Corsica |
YES |
NO |
NO |
Chevrolet Venture |
NO |
NO |
YES |
Oldsmobile Achieva |
YES |
NO |
NO |
Oldsmobile Alero |
NO |
NO |
YES |
Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera |
YES |
NO |
NO |
Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser |
YES |
NO |
NO |
Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme |
YES |
NO |
NO |
Oldsmobile Silhouette |
NO |
NO |
YES |
Pontiac Aztec |
NO |
NO |
YES |
Pontiac Grand Am |
YES |
NO |
YES |
Pontiac Grand Prix |
YES |
YES |
NO |
Pontiac Trans Sport |
NO |
NO |
YES |
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8) I want
to install a complete 3100 or 3400 in my car, Or a hybrid, what do I need
to do?
For the 3X00 installation guide, go here. For a Hybrid build guide, go here.
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9) I know
the heads flow better but I don't want to change anything else. Can I just
swap the Gen III heads and reuse my Gen II manifolds?
No, the Gen III heads have very different intake port locations and angles
of port entry, they don't line up at all. You
cannot "port match" either to make them fit.
The exhaust port shape on the Gen II engine is a "Round" exhaust port, the
Gen III's use a "D" shaped port where the flat edges of the "D" would
hit against the opening of stock Gen II exhaust manifolds. That would create
a barrier and cause poor exhaust flow or even exhaust flow reversion (forced
to flow back into the head)
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10) I want
to swap the heads and intakes/or a complete 3400 but I don't want to bother
swapping all that other stuff that you recommend.
You have to swap the rest of the components listed in our pages. We get
a lot of guys saying they want to reuse their old Power Steering pump. It
won't fit, period. All the hoses, pipes, and small "modifications" we
have listed are to make the new set of manifolds and heads work in a vehicle
that was never designed for these newer components. The newer parts
have different styles of pipes, hoses, fittings, and wiring routing or other
changes that necessitate the need to use these parts.
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11) Why
is the power steering pump different?
On the Gen III engines, the lower intake manifold runner
#2 sits closer towards the "front" (looking at it transversely) of the
engine timing chain cover. The space left between this cover is less than that
of the runner to cover size on a Gen II engine. The Power Steering pump has
been reduced in width on Both the Pump and the Reservoir to fit. This is why
it's very important to get a pump that its complete! You need the pump,
pulley, and reservoir all together! The reason our pages describe
needing the front engine timing chain cover is because of this:
The cover has the flange for the power steering pump to bolt onto. GM
made the bolt holes in a slightly different location and reduced
the size of the flange that the P/S pump bolts onto. This flange is now .5
inches thick compared to the thicker flange on the Gen II's at .750 inches
thick. The narrow space is needed because pulley has been brought in closer
to the pump body which allows for a more compact fitment.
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12) I
want to install a 3400 or 3100 into my car does this engine bolt up to my old
5spd manual or 3spd automatic transmission?
Yes to both. All GM 60 degree V6 engines, and some 4 cylinders use the same
bell housing bolt pattern. These bell housing sizes are sometimes referred
to as FWD patterns. The engine that share the same pattern are 2.0L ohv, 2.2L
ohv, 2.5L, 2.8L, 3.1L, 3.4L, 3300, 3800. The transmissions that
don't work with the Gen III engine are ones that use the different Starter
locations: 2.0L OHC (Pontiac engine) 2.3L Quad 4, and 2.4L
Twin Cam,
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13) Do
my old 3.1L/2.8L injectors work with the new 3X00 Fuel Rail? And can I use
those?
Yes. The older injectors fit right in with no problems. We recommend using
the older Injectors with these setups as with the 2000 and newer injectors
you cannot use their new style "Multec2" injectors without a custom tuned chip
to allow it to run properly.
14) You
list needing to use "Custom Pushrods" when
using the newer style roller rockers. Why?
The 96 and newer 3X00 engines all use a Pedestal mounted Roller Fulcrum
Rocker arm with a 1.6:1 ratio. These rocker arms are non adjustable and, combined
with the Gen III roller lifters, use shorter pushrods than older
Gen II non roller lifter engines. When using these rocker arms with the new heads
and the old flat tappet cams/lifters the length of the gen III pushrods are too
short. The old gen II pushrods are a hair too long to provide proper lifter preload,
which is crucial for hydraulic lifters. Without the right preload on the hydraulic
lifter plunger you can cause problems. You 'could' possibly get away with using
the stock pushrods but we strongly recommend against this. Take
the time to measure a set out, or have a shop measure them for you. Places to
buy new custom length pushrods are: www.cranecams.com www.pushrods.net
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15) Should
I run my EGR (or other emissions equipment), even if they don't e-test in
my area?
Absolutely. Even if they don't test in your area, your EGR, and other emission
equipment will your fuel economy, engine temp, and the environment. Contrary
to popular belief your stock catalytic converter doesn't restrict exhaust flow
unless it's plugged, which if that's the case, a cheap new hi-flow converter can
be gotten off e-bay.
The only thing you get from removing your cat is a tinny sounding, rotten egg
smelling, exhaust. It should also be noted that if they do test in your area,
or you move into an area that tests, it is *impossible* to pass without a cat.
Even if you pass visual inspection, your NOx, and HC levels will be through
the roof.